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Otti Ottig
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:25:00 -
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FCON wrote:Long story short we have a history of pushing to balence things.
wrong.
xPredat0rz wrote:
Think of it this way. The only reason most of said T2 BPOs exist is because they were gifted to BOB/IT by their pocket dev.
super wrong.
in a logical approach:
simply removing something is not a problem/requires time to do, so if that or something like that would be the plan it would have been done 10 years ago when most of the T2 BPO's weren't bought but gifted/won. He might has just thoughts about a nerf that compensates the upcoming T2 BPO boost in the end. making T2 BPO's meaningless/removing has not even been hinted as far I read the quotes. Let's see when it's all on youtube. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:15:00 -
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xPredat0rz wrote:
Because of course BOB/IT didnt get T2 BPOs magically dropped into their hangers. It didnt get a dev fired or spawn the internal affairs division to prevent something like that happening again.
if u could just stop talking about stuff u have been told wrong or/and haven't understood.
some individuals while members of BOB, (not IT) did recieve illegal information by a Eve DEV when a few T2 BPO's would come up in a random Lottery. so the only advantage was that they knew when to buy the tickets. with "a few" I'm talking of 12-15ish of over 3000 legally seeded BPO's
xPredat0rz wrote:
The income level for them is inbalanced when comepared to ...
...what they cost, indeed. That's probably why the they are defenetly boosting T2 BPO's for now
xPredat0rz wrote:
T2 BPOs will probably get nerfed/removed at some point
they will infact probably get removed for the last 9 years, but keep it up!
xPredat0rz wrote:So we didnt completely switch to a drone assist doctrine to prove how insanely overpowered it was? Could have fooled me.
my bad, I forgot for a second that FCON is allowed to call themselves CFC too
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Otti Ottig
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:57:00 -
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Jaqen Hari wrote:Having spoke about this in corp recently with the guy who runs our T2 BPO library (pretty sure the largest single collection ingame) we were thinking of ways which CCP could possibly phase them out of the game in a fair way for all sides, the best solution we could come up with was replacing them all with X number BPC runs.
this old/bad idea has been discussed so many times...
bad because:
1) 1 rare collector items is not the same as 1000xx consumptable BPC's, wich makes 99% of the value of a BPO
2) bringing in so many new BPC's would make inventions pointless for a very long time, wich would cause so much more whining
3) going into personal hangars of only a certain group of ppl is something CCP should never do imho, at least not in this scale(number of ppl, and value in isk) as everyone who is playing eve to grind might think "w/e im grinding for, CCP will take it away if only enough ppl will cry about it"
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
If they really wanted to remove them, they could probably just start buying them at market value using confiscated ISK, slowly and secretly, over a few years. Done slowly enough, the inclusion of that ISK in the economy would probably be negligible (and since it's confiscated ISK, it was already a part of the economy to begin with - it was just artificially removed), and purchasing them at market value eliminates any butthurt over their removal.
I still think it's wrong to remove/nerf them to death... but this is the only functional way to remove them...
would be sort of fair, immediate, and permanent...would require soem GM time but after it's done, it's done. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.10 06:00:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:
At fanfest they said they're not going to give tech 2 BPO owners any isk for the BPO when they do the change of removing them. They said if you have one when the change happens you can cry all you want, but your not getting any isk for them from CCP.
As if CCP would ever say anything like that. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:58:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:here you all go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTyMhSKY9Eskip to 22:20 "i think we've been fairly consistently, publically of the opinion that we need to do something with t2 bpos for some time, I hope that's being taken into account in market prices..." "...that value is going to go down in the future..." good luck with the "this is all just a goonie lie" thing
c&p'ing this thousand times doenst make it better (especially when using it on every T2 BPO sale thread)
oh and how does "value will go down" and "we won't take them away, and screw you" make u think that they will be removed? -value of something not existent can't go down IRRC
welcome to 5 days ago btw. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:34:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:here you all go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTyMhSKY9Eskip to 22:20 "i think we've been fairly consistently, publically of the opinion that we need to do something with t2 bpos for some time, I hope that's being taken into account in market prices..." "...that value is going to go down in the future..." good luck with the "this is all just a goonie lie" thing
c&p'ing this thousand times doenst make it better (especially when using it as argument to sell for cheap on every T2 BPO sale thread)
oh and how does "value will go down" and "we won't take them away, and screw you" make u think that they will be removed? -value of something not existent can't go down IRRC
welcome to 5 days ago btw. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.13 07:38:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: "Part of their problem is their extreme value and that value is going to go down(... RIGHT, BEFORE WE REMOVE THEM ALL, LMAO, OWNED". And yes, the value of an object that does exist that will not exist in the future can go down, in fact it will got to zero. .
yea im sure that's exactly what he wanted to say :D
anyway, title plus the flood of low-ball offers in sell orders says it all |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:20:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
The point is that you stated that the value of something being removed can't go down, which is clearly incorrect.
funny you mentioned my (relativly obvious) missquoting.
ALL I SAID IS
Quote: -value of something not existent can't go down IIRC
saying that to point out that it's value is going down right before it's getting removed just makes no sense at all as it's the most obvious thing in the world |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.15 07:04:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:lol, well that quote does not say what you seem to think it says, those are 2 totally separate statements.
exactly, all the blabla about something I didnt even say. 2 totally separate statements, when talking about quoting = missquoting.
also I think this discussion should has found it's natural end since this happened https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4587658#post4587658
wich made pretty clear that all assumptions regarding a removal were wrong ( I know, nobody said that anyway)
now have fun backpedaling |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:03:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Certainly not always, but I tend to post when I'm sure of something. Besides, I could be wrong here, they might never do anything, right? So go invest in T2 BPOs.
eh?
you sure about what? the removal? really? even after CCP stated in the easiest and clearest words they would ever do that they won't do that
but yea reading between all these lines I know you have found the truth about their real intentions.
I mean right now the water is up to your chest and you didnt understand that the ship is lost.
Nex Killer wrote:
What one dev says doesn't mean anything at all. I remember CCP Falcon commenting on reddit about the rumor of World of Darkness being canned and him saying:
right, so what one DEV said in the offcial Forums... even with the very clear words (rare for CCP) "An FYI to cease the rumor mongering that is happening in this (and other) threads:" Means absolutely nothing because it already happened once that a another CCP dev said on a external and unrelated forum and changed his mind a week later.
So when they are playing oposite day all the time they might even boost all T2 BPO's and nerf invention to the ground, did a DEV ever denie it? probably true then.
Lucas Kell wrote: Your bad investments are not an issue for me. But when they get nerfed into non-existence, you damn well better not be back here crying about it.
pretty harsh to call something a bad investment that cost me about 10% of what it's worth now and has prolly made 500% profit of the invested isk by now |
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Otti Ottig
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:20:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
OK, so explain exactly why CCP Eterne, who is the only person to state that T2 BPOs would not be removed (which itself is counter to what was said in the industry panel).
lol... why don't you explain exactly how it counters anything that has been said on the industry panel? nobody said anything baout a removal and that's exactly what eterne pointed out. It's only your opinion that they hinted it and you simply don't want to understand that even after a offical confirmation.
Lucas Kell wrote:
f I'm the one here talking BS, why did the "we have no plans" post get changes to say "no immediate plans"?.
really is that all you got, now? We can't see what he has edited but both versions mean pretty much the same thing. And as the sentence stands right now, they've made the most clear statement about a not coming removal.
Lucas Kell wrote:
I find it funny that someone that thinks they have such a good investment though would have no idea what their actual profit is and would just guess at percentages. I smell a bullshitter.
judging by your rage against us T2 BPO owners you can't have made too much profit yet so I'll let that pass. the profit u've made in 8 years is quite hard to put in numbers and totally unrelated for this discussion....but yea totally a sign that i'm the bullshitter. |
Otti Ottig
Sushi Social Society
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Posted - 2014.05.19 19:46:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
I couldn't care less even tho I keep posting the same trash over and over again...
Fact != what you wish somebody wanted to say
Profit margin of a product != total profit of over 100 prints in 7 years
I couldn't say anything that I havent said before and since I don't feel repeating myself over and over again => hf/gl with ur ragecrusade |
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